UTG INTERVIEW: Hostage Calm

We’ve just grown up playing fast punk, and tried and true, play it loud, hard and fast and you’ll just burn it up that way… one of the most exciting things about touring is being able to get good at playing. We’re getting better as musicians and players.

Shortly after their appearance at Skate and Surf, we had the chance to catch up with Tim Casey of Hostage Calm. We quizzed him on the Connecticut punks’ future plans for touring, recording, and what else may lay in store.

How did you start playing bass, singing, and writing songs?

My songwriting debut was in a high school ska band called The Jive Cats. Chris – Hostage Calm singer Cmar – played drums in that band, and it was high school, so there were a lot of inter-band relationships. Lots of sexual tension because we were all 15. Chris and I decided to try a different band where we both sang and I played bass while he played guitar; that was called Ted Kaczynski And The Mad Bombers. It’s been a slow evolution from there to where we are today.

In total, how many bands have you been in with Chris? Just the three?

Those two and another one I hadn’t mentioned called At All Costs. After that, it was Hostage Calm. We’ve also done some different side-projects that I don’t know that I’d qualify as “real bands.” I’ll say four total.

Hostage Calm hasn’t so much changed in styles as grown in time. What has lead to that growth from album to album?

I think that it’s the same reason you listen to the Backstreet Boys when you’re 11, but not when you’re 13. It’s been a core group of guys for many years, some really formative, developmental years. It’s not that “we played hardcore and then we grew up;” but we played hardcore and we loved it and we still are stoked on that material. We just wanted to play more stuff, too.

Do you see yourselves doing another change in style on your next album?

I think the drastic changes are slowing down, but it is an ever-evolving thing. I feel like all my favorite bands sound different from release to release. And what is being in a band other than emulating your favorite bands?

What are your favorite bands that you’re trying to emulate?

I don’t want to say “emulate” (even though I said “emulate”) [Laughs]. We make a great effort not to ape. I feel like a lot of people ape, but I’m not gonna name names. I feel like the Clash is a band that put out a bunch of phenomenal LPs. There’s a great thread and legacy through them, but none of them sound the same; they’re each engaging in their own way.

I was really hoping you were going to say “The Backstreet Boys” again.

Yeah. I think The Backstreet Boys’ evolution is one that I watch and reflect on. It’s inspiring to me.

Do you guys already have plans for another album?

Yeah. We’re constantly writing. We’re taking a couple months off this summer to focus on that process. We’ve been going at it pretty hard; putting the breaks on the touring for a little bit and focusing on the creative process is definitely on our schedule.

Yeah. You’ve been on a lot of tours lately with Anti-Flag, The Wonder Years and now one with Less Than Jake. Are there any artists you would like to tour with that you haven’t been able to yet?

Oh man. That list is endless. I’d be stoked to tour with so many. Touring has its ups and downs, but definitely this Anti-Flag tour we’re on right now; that was a band I idolized at a younger age, and they’re great musicians and great people. Touring with bands that inspire you drives you to play better everyday. It’s cool to get feedback from that.

I’m stoked to tour with Less Than Jake. I love touring the east coast because it feels like home the whole time. I’m stoked to see JR from Less Than Jake, who plays saxophone; he’s from Wallingford, Connecticut, where we’re all from. I mentioned At All Costs, the band that preceded Hostage Calm; I remember going to his parents house and putting our CD in a mailbox there. He got it and I was like 16, and I thought it was really cool that he was in touch on such a low-level.  We were really young, just kids. He was in Less Than Jake and I was just a 16 year old. Also Pentimento is on that tour and I’m excited to find out who Tony Pentimen is.

I guess I didn’t really answer your question there.

I didn’t realize he was from Wallingford. That’s where Connecticut’s best record store, Redscroll Records, is.

Yeah. He was in Springfield Jack, a seminal Connecticut ska band, before Less Than Jake. I do not still live in Wallingford, but my whole family is still there and we still practice there. There used to be some great venues there, and as you said, Redscroll Records is there. I only live 20 minutes away.

You did a split 7” with Anti-Flag, too, and they’ve been around since the year I was born. Do you see yourselves carving out a long career like that or do you see yourselves burning out in a few years?

That’s a good question. I feel like if you asked us as a band, and if we were going to answer candidly during our development… I feel like when we were a hardcore band, we had this dream that we would just go fucking do the thing. You know, release a great hardcore LP, do a national tour after school was finished, and then break up, like all the Rev bands, like Carry On, like… whoever.  I don’t know, though. I really try not to think that far ahead. We’re sort of going with the flow.  Everything is still developing in an exciting way; we’re doing new stuff all the time, and we’re still getting better at playing, which is exciting to me.

When you guys play songs live – especially with Please Remain Calm – there are songs that are done in the studio that are borderline 60s pop songs, but then live they become punk songs. Why the juxtaposition between live and studio?

This is kind of a shitty answer. I do feel like in some way, we’ve just grown up playing fast punk, and tried and true, play it loud, hard and fast and you’ll just burn it up that way. Like I was saying, one of the most exciting things about touring is being able to get good at playing. We’re getting better as musicians and players. Being dynamic… I don’t want to say it eludes me, but, yeah, it eludes me a little bit. When I grew up, you just play with the volume at 10, and as fast as possible. I want to say there are more dynamic performances in our future, not just ripping the whole time. Well, don’t get me wrong; we’ll always aspire to be ripping.  But at the same time we’re always trying to expand our repertoire as a players.

That’s funny because I considered Hostage Calm, out of the modern scene, to be one of the more dynamic groups out there.

Well, I think that you’re never perfect, you know? As a musician, you can always get better. There’s always new techniques and new styles to work on.

In the world where pop/punk has mostly lost its punk edge, you guys still appear to stand for something, especially with gay marriage. Are there any other political ideals you all share as a band?

Chris is straight edge, and all of us are either vegan or vegetarian. It’s hard to say whether there are big-picture political ideas that “the whole band is about this,” but if we were to be about anything, it would just be to be politically and socially aware of what is going on. I don’t know how to say this without offending somebody, but the pop/punk scene feels like it exudes this vapid, apathetic white male unaware audience, sort of thing. The vast majority of the dudes we’ve come to meet and hang out with in that scene have all been punk level dudes and have had good heads on their shoulders. I’m not sure how to quantify that sort of “out-of-touch” feeling. I don’t know if it’s a completely unfounded assumption; maybe it’s way off the mark? But that’s the way I feel.

What is Hostage Calm’s drummer situation?

Our dear drummer, John… it was time for him to go. There were no hard feelings. He’s a man of some years, and he had put in his time. [Laughs] Presently, we’re on tour, and Joe Longobardi from Defeater is filling in. He’s very good, but we don’t have a permanent drummer at the moment. We think often about who can play drums, but we’re not being very proactive about it, because we’re on tour all the time, or teaching the guy who can only do the most directly forthcoming tour how to play our set. Fucking drummers, man.

It’s very Spinal Tap of you guys. Has it been three or four drummers, or more than that?

It’s been three officially, but we’ve had some great long time fill-in guys, like Alan Huck who plays in Self Defense Family and played drums for a CT band called My Heart to Joy — he played drums on several tours. We’ve had a lot of classic hardcore drummers. Our second drummer Fred was in Fired Up! and the First Step, and John, who we just lost, played drums in With Honor and Ambitions. Joe, who’s currently filling in, was in a heavy Connecticut band called Palehorse, and is now in Defeater, D-Fang of Mindset fame has filled in, Chris Mala of CT’s Heavy Breath has played with us. A lot of hardcore guys on the kit, historically.

What was the highlight of your Skate & Surf weekend?

Seeing Saves the Day was radical. I’ve never really seen them, and -this may lose me some cred points, but I was never really into them until recently. Their late stuff is Beatles-y, super clean and has weirder songwriting. They are a remarkable live band. They sound just like the recordings. They sound unblemished. It was fucking great.

What did you think of the band playing next to you that was made of teenagers?

They were very young. I’m trying to be more mature in my approach to musical relativism… people like the things they like, and they’re going to play that in their band. They did Guns n Roses and Led Zeppelin covers, but they did them pretty tight. Especially for their age.

They were like 13.

Nevermind age. They were actually tight. They did “Sweet Child Of Mine” well, and as long as they did those covers with legitimate passion, then I ultimately have to back it.

That’s a very punk rock answer. Do you think Skate & Surf was a success?

I feel like a lot of great bands played. And the weather thing is like, what do you do about the weather? I honestly showed up with a grimace on my face cause of the rain, but ultimately, I had a very good time. I watched Saves the Day, Glassjaw, and RX Bandits. It was ultimately a great time for me, so yes, I’d say so.

Written and conducted by: Dan Bogosian – Follow him on Twitter

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